12-07 John Clayton on Schopp and the Bulldog

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The WG ER. Sports Radio 515. Brought you my northwest. Make the switch to northwest can't get. All right indeed. The band back together once again although sales here from likes those courses the usual three of us that we usually have. John you know all you know sell right John I got you know court. Or like Mike oh Mike Tisdale there's he would is his oldest at. An assembly. It's college performance of some kind that he wanted to be dat so here is he did that but he is he is coming to work disclosed. For the local economy and I appreciate wanted to go to the kids thing we've you know I've I've been there. But today is the holiday party so despite the fact that he has the day off he's coming here. And like I don't know I'm not a fan of that like I won't want to miss the holiday party but I would not want a bona day off and still able to go. Gluten that's orbit. I guess but it always good to be at the party. If you use your big fan of the holidays the company party. What could. I can't say because medalist put it this way. I don't think had been to one and many years and it like for example on the local stations daily schedule it during a Sunday well there's this thing called football that would. Yeah him but never been able to make B yet seven NE SPN party. And I'll check it out right you were never really based in Bristol when he races you'd know I. Good without him they would maybe three times they flew me back. For the ESPN parties and that was great but then after awhile it's like OK do we really need to fly everybody cross country for a party. Particular directly thousand people at the party so they that we didn't have that and then although next week it is kind of unusual because I want the the broadcast it on the sidelines I actually got invited to the seat pot party. That's Friday night so likely to make that one. Is that a first look at teen holiday party. Yes now not part of the game obviously I don't I'm. If independently covering that it's like got the other bit to bit of the kind of nice and it's what's even better is like literally I like out. Five minute drive from the house and high yet so it's like that'll be good. That'll totally work for you John Clayton on the AT&T. Hotline with a so. We'll Groundhog Day force last Sunday John the patriots came then. And they didn't exactly humiliate the bills. But somehow they still managed to win by twenty. Office that's just opera. Was a very familiar. Feeling game 93 at halftime like ten year old well maybe amend the second half started immediately sort of put the bill now. Yet one really bad part about it it's like it that. The way to score came out at 23 to read it to mindful because the minutes that started coming out what was it Tom Brady was 26 and three against the bills or something like that. And be able to put the score next to the record that was set up a little bit raw I know that wasn't intent or anything else. I was kind of a bad reminder. He not not great so. You know all we we feel is a very familiar sinking kind of feeling now that anyone around here was. Walking around on all the bills are definitely gonna beat the patriots but seeing them these but I guess per lack of a better way to put it outclassed again. Despite the fact that we're still we don't still hunting here at six and six and they need some help and all the stuff. It just feels like there's a very familiar sinking feeling around what's your football. And they it every look that passed the that's why not out of the benching. Tyrod Taylor even though it may not have that change the equation and a one game that one game was this huge. That loss was not that devastating because again. You know that win but he kept everything on part kept everything ahead I think the advantage is still there. Is that you can see that I think you know it's gonna be probably eight made from one of the wild card since it to win in the last step forward and I think it within reason. If three wins as possible so it's still there and it still hasn't slipped away but they'll be got to try to get. Some victories here it to get this going because again I think the key is just just getting into the playoffs who cares it was like it's been so long just the taste of a feat that goes. Past week seventeen. You still think he's one of the wild cards will end up being that bad record. Yeah I think so. That. They don't take a look at and an Arabic facing each other and you know going down the stretch you got a lot of division games I mean like for example and you got the KC Oakland game. That's an accord without market Peters and complain because he's suspended by Andy Reid for throwing for blocking not to feel it after throwing the flag. Into the stands and thinking he was rejected any wasn't. Still so what do those two team is gonna be six and seven and you know you still have some more inter conference gains or not something's bound so bill. You know one wildcard going to be probably ten and that's going to be you know the second place team in the AFC south. So that that six. While that's six spot still I think can be eight Nate. I'm still look at Baltimore seven in five right now in just. Yeah that's true yeah I putted but again what happens on Sunday night. Right yeah sorry about that and it's six. And I'll say this I think John I think Tennessee it. Does not have easy games they got to go out west Arizona. Which is tough for any team to do we saw what they did Jacksonville when they're out there they have to go out west to see which Cisco now playing drop below they still the plea Jacksonville at the end of the year I don't think it's a lot that Tennessee is in the playoffs at this point. I agree and you can see that there's some numbers that are kind of concerning and because a lot of time that this is kind of a baseball Saber metrics thing but you know what I keep giant. It was like if you give up more runs than you score. In year over 500 in your kind of an illusion. And so you take that into account the next year. And up the playoff contenders the titans have given up more points and they scored. So even though there Eaton for the fact that I don't think they're not playing and you know give an example last year the team like that. He traded to teams Detroit and Miami though Detroit. You have that can win seasons did good things and eight comeback in the fourth quarter setting a record for Matthew Stafford. And you see what happened to them this year now they're sitting there are six and six and they are not letting us come back games. And you look at Miami and UCL there season has gone off course and so you can either have an easy schedule and you pay for the next year. Or you give up more points in score and the next you're catches up to. John what happened in the Kansas City Chiefs this year. Several things first stop. They're defense from the very start of the season has been terrible. A lot of it has to be losing Eric Berry and we it was a free safety and that type of defense and even look at from oral promise and all that when he missed the end of last year for Seattle. It affects everything because you know it gets the positioning of the defensive backs. So they lead the league. And biggest plays given up explosive plays. That's been bad about forces now the four point now in the first half of the season they were scoring the points but then he started making adjustments on them defensively. So they started going into a cover two type shell. And got eliminated a lot of the big plays identical for like 32 point office took on an eighteen point op and Alex Smith wasn't making the big power plays downfield is going to many check downs and so last week because so frustrating that Andy Reid just threw up his hand. Gave the play calling to Matt Nagy and have met Nikki came out it was able to hit some big plays early and in the Big Ten. Altered again. So really the defense I think has been the downfall of the seeing him and then they kind of figured out a lot of the staff Andy Reid was filling it contained. Could have got a streak going of asking you whether or not Woolsey Patrick Holmes anytime soon and you have been consistent with no. War aiding change after a loss to the jets. Nominate a white and it would change would be they get eliminated which they won't I we sixteen or seventeen does nothing to play Portman would do it that way but now the he's just not. Not ready they knew he wasn't going to be ready they're not going to rush things. And I think they've taken Smart approach on that because. I'd rather go see it. My homes in a positive situation in year two then see you know what we've seen at other quarterbacks like an extra bit skis and they'll. Nathan Peter men and he used the wanna see that it's it's still early it's too early you wanna do what the right way because if the idea of trading up in getting the homes. Is that you know they think long term he'll be better than Alex Smith. Kabila take them further in the playoffs and Alex met. If that's going to be the case you don't wanna ruin him. We are speaking for I hope lots of bills fans loving this Kansas City slide John because we've got that first round pick with the the way the season started. It just seemed like a foregone conclusion label for data that's going to be in the late twenties almost no matter what now they could still win the division of course they're tied with the raiders and chargers now. Well atop the AFC west but boy it if they can find a way to finish around 500 and not win that division. That that would be just great for us here in buffalo. Yeah and you can think things are starting the fall apart on appeal to the body language that they're shelling in games is not good you saw. Now Andy Reid is a great control coach. Is not starting of this control over some elements of the team and make the penalties in the Nelson the quarterback into penalties in the red zone. That we're very costly in the market Peters picking up the flag throwing it in the stands walking off the field and I'll get suspended for the most important game they have this year. And literally you don't know what they have a quarterback. And we think we're so bad habit or alternating three quarterbacks. On the other side of market Peters and market because of one of the best cornerbacks in the lake. So not to take a late Peters last week they bring in Darrelle Revis he gets beat for four passes in the first happened to bench him so they don't know what they have. And it brought against their car. Our man John Clayton is on the AT&T hotline with a us here on WGR for his weekly visit before we leave that division. It. Who would you or who favored to win that division now with those three teams all six and six. Yeah I'm think it might be the chargers and the reason I think that was at least they're the hottest team of the group and they have more than they've been they've got a real good defense. You know one that now they can't take injuries they have no depth that's pretty evident. But when you look at that front. Or it's really good. Killing both as one of the best defensive ends and football they've got good defensive act. Tackled the line backing core isn't bad as some issues in the secondary but I like their defense that you get Phillip rivers. And they'll Philip Rivers up that he's hot he's been pretty good this season. And after the of one or start to think it's like okay BCA at Kansas City team that lost six out of seven BC and Oakland team that just playing average. And at least hit you with the chargers short they may lose some close games they shouldn't lose there were four and nine and those close games last year to a private think this year but now. They squeeze in some things outside that they might have a tip the only problem is. Are they gonna get any kind of home field advantage which they don't. We spoke when they collect the stub hub center literally. More than 50% of the crowd is going to be the other teams and not the chargers. I I I agree with the Pitt guy I would pick I'm Elizabeth's team that group. I mean knew that the games they lost earlier this year we're just your may have talent John I mean you know on the opposite side with Philip obviously but. With the way the girl he's running with that Keenan Allen playing excellent Antonio Gates and the defense aside with both signing of an Hayward mean. They do have talent on that team and I think if he lives on. Excellent job since the the first four games especially. Don't they were they really do and I think that that's that give them an advantage in that Doc Rivers is a very good quarterback coming. I don't know he probably won't get to the all of into the element of the Super Bowl and all that stuff but he's always. Good and don't you move is that teams and it really when you think about the three teams now I thought on paper Kansas city's defense was going to be good but it hasn't got the three teens. Chargers have the best defense raiders don't have much on defense and they had to go. What eleven games before they got the first interception and they're just a mess and the secondary so it was so if you need defense running and a quarterback. Guilt of the three teams right now the charges probably have the best. You have an obvious Simon Gordon not girly save all your tweets out there John Clayton joining us here. On the eighteenth to highlight how John the talk in buffalo for the last four days has really centered around the hit Rob Gronkowski Contra devious way. Thankfully weight is out of concussion protocol today he looks on track to be able to play he won't miss any games it looks like. Sunday he should be able to play however he gets appointed words Rob Gronkowski today called it dirty said that makes him a dirty player he said no I have kids I and his son to raise. Obviously there's been a lot of talk about here what was your take on the situation and the ultimate suspension. All of what I'm wondering about that to get any sympathy because crops from buffalo. Not for me on now I mean I don't know I mean. Ivan I've gotten that sense the bills fans seemed pretty. Are we out by what happened. I don't know I am I. Little sympathetic that he went to my high school look at every he left his senior year came down to Woodland Hills. I can I want to that was Turco back when I went there as they went there but I don't know I'd like that that most people think it should be more than one game. I'm still it is the one thing I have concerns about it that you can never figure out what the the penalties are going to be in this league because they're all over the place and it seems like the kind of creating it they go along. And so you know if there was more at the the definition. Of what you want look at the and it kind of RAMP it up with the suspensions this year and I think that's fine for safety issues and the fact that he did damage caused the concussion. L with a cheap shot all that. In May get. They should've been two games I still say it should be one but the only reason I don't say two games this is just about. The finder and I let look back at the acute believe Michael Crabtree battle. How they've bought a continuation of the fight and it's like they took two down to one the fact that the meat which could have been too and that there's no way to reduce net. Accusers met the guys suspension because that with the pod that was added on and then. But I think in this case more than likely I think that the sympathy should be yet to gains for chronic I still stick with one minute you're buffalo you probably want more. You know what I'm not even hung up on how many games. But you know late for me. One game to game and do we keep churning along in grant will be back for the playoffs and then wherever doing who's gonna do we're doing with him a bit. For me to what we're we're not what I feel look I wanna take away from this. This is having a permanent idea. Over what kind of kind of competitor gronkowski might be or look at the battery is a read John the guy was faced down it was disgusting what he did. So it. It's a kind of thing like I want is a sports fan of the week we tend to just dispose of the things that really bother us or find us. Because we like to games that we like to teams or whatever it is is keep chugging along. I just believed it was gross. Yeah but the one thing I think you have to look at history too like for example this is on as perfect. And then you have got to fight game suspension because he's got a history if it was Ndamukong Suh he probably got a three or four game suspension because in the past at least with Claude. I mean I can't really think of any real bad. Things coming you know we placed our. And the east physical there's no question about that he'd be very good blocker and you'll you'll you'll put everything into it but this was the first time that. I could think of any type of the bad play like that and so with that in mind is like at the first time offender should get the get the maximum I don't know about that. John Clayton on the AT&T hotline will those what sort of load the the the other stuff from got Cincinnati and Pittsburgh. And eleven personal fouls. You get a suspension that's upheld one that's thrown out we've got to pay a player that's bit scared off on a body board that was a dirty player anything but still. Just just. The scene overall there's this league this to get between Pittsburgh and Cleveland here John because. He doesn't seem like their coaches are control of Pittsburgh and Cincinnati if you re controlling these teams. No I agree I think it. This is one and it that they should have picked up audit because against you go back to the playoff game. We had coaches on the field the mean Mike Munchak was on the field and Joey Porter was on the field. And it was that that got out of control and you can see the carry over and now this has become don't it's the rivalry between Pittsburgh and Baltimore. It is I don't think one of the best in football but this is and that is Cincinnati and Pittsburgh citizen Dave justice do it. I mean it. And honestly I don't think it's necessarily. Totally good for the game because of your parent. And you're concerned about yours you're done playing football and you look at the stuff that happened in this game if Sam McAlister played football that this is this is ridiculous. That was the bad parts. But you can also see that thirst for this type of football because what ratings were up like 34%. Over Carolina Seattle game from a year ago. And so they'll an end and think about the ideas like. Is there anything appealing right now about the Cincinnati Bengals. And Internet there's scoring barely over two touchdown of the game there opposite than in the tank called season they've got a good defense. There losing team yet if any big rating part of it because of the Steelers but impart you know it's like. There are people going through a and auto show and auto race a car race and waiting for the accidents and you're waiting to see what bad things happen in this game is too much. And I think the league had to go to vote in and cut down on that because you know the next game is going to be so many flights thrown that united that'd be able to enjoy the game. Tonight we have New Orleans Atlanta I can hear a gamer here on the B share Sports Radio 550. John telling about the NFC and who you think is the best team in the NFC right now and how this all shakes out. Well it is certain to change each week makes clearly with Philadelphia. And until the last week Seattle that a good number on that with a 24 to ten victory. And now there's number two seed that Minnesota is really playing some good football and getting the best that a case Keenan. And so now they've moved into the number once people what you're really looking at. There's not much difference. Among the top teams. Because they're so close I mean the rams are close to the Seahawks the Seahawks are close to the Eagles police so really what you're looking at us six pretty good teams. Carolina is a good team Atlanta L right now they're on the outside kind of looking into that they lose this game they're definitely on the outside looking at New Orleans. Still as good as they I appear on defense when he basically quarterback they don't do as well and they give up 2425. Points so. It's just a great race and I think what you're saying is that it is only hit a very small number of quality teams. In the AFC elegant as can be six playoff spot him but a normal year this that they would be considered playoff teams. This year you get him in this case I mean let's say for example and you know that. You know green baby cleave going to be 76 Emmys Aaron Rodgers they come back and win three in a row get the ten wins Detroit at an easy. Quality schedule at a ticket. And OK but Matt he's effort maybe they can run for raw but I still think there's going to be a ten win team that's not going to make it. But really when you think about the differences now as we're seeing between all these games. Still you know what New Orleans Minnesota. It's pretty close. Other rams do you think. Real. Very much so. And the reason they're real is because one they have a decent defense Wade Phillips is doing is typical widget good job with the defense taking over new stance. Sean McVeigh is one of the best coaching young addition this lake at babies is Jon Gruden but he is a great one. And you can see what he's got out of Jericho off you can see the fact that donate edit three receivers to from the build and that's helped them out. I would Robert what does Sammy Watkins and it got a great running back and Todd Gurley and it probably made one at the single biggest acquisitions on top of the wind getting Andrew Whitworth. It's so no they're really good and the big thing they're worried about two things right now. Won the fires are causing problems for the forcing him out to be able to practice because of the bad air and then secondly they anticipate is gonna be more equals fans. There than any other home game that they've had and the Eagles fans are gonna drown them out I've already heard rental car places in I. I Los Angeles have already booked pretty much everything Philadelphia. Speaking of Philadelphia how big of a blow for them there that I'm still in great shape attendants who obviously. That that Seattle handle on the way they did. Not because it's a minor setback. I think it was a learning curve thing because bill if they needed a little bit of a wake up call because if they had gone nine straight games they they were one and one. For the whole season against teams with winning records so they just haven't faced a lot of good teams and so I think that. Not that overconfidence played in their but he needed account six how to get back to reality and they're on everybody out by 28 points. And so. Now you go back and you start to reevaluate its okay we didn't do this right we didn't do this right we're still good Carson went in and yeah I don't think he's gonna go to the Super Bowl this year but I can guarantee sometime in a couple years he's good enough to take that seemed as Super Bowl. Doug Peterson had a great coaching staff particularly on top and they've got enough good defensive players they're really really good. And I still think somehow some way they're gonna end up with a number one seed. John who's the MVP still albeit with a quarter of the season left pretty good debate going on right now. Yet they say it's three and it started to really churn and the cart and went I think I have believed and still does in my opinion I think Russell Wilson. Needs to be number two NN's Tom Brady number three and the reason I have Russell appears that. Number one he's doing things we have never seen in the national football league for example is like 88485%. Of the offense. He's almost what 98% of the touched out. He is he's got 154 quarter touchdown passes the record is fifteen set by Eli Manning back in 2011. Well Russell has four games left it literally carrying this team and plays cities spinning around making are absolutely incredible. But I still right now without putting my vote in I would vote for parts plants. All right John stay out of the room forest path. You know some. How about Mike port. Even less so I don't know who can dig and blown out of my own problems and no we got a double. We were able John that you have good travels in the public the next week or but art.