9-13 Joe Marino, FanRagSports and NDTScouting, talks Bills and QBs with Schopp and the Bulldog.mp3

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It's Mike show you name any word in less than the second I will tell you how many letters are in it but I cannot. I do not anything mechanically I don't even ought to put a team together for three year old spend a Bulldog. Fool me once. Shame on. Shame on you. People we can't get fooled again on WG. Sports break. All right welcome back the show we have Joseph Marino back on the AT&T hotline with us Joseph from fan -- sports and DT scouting we'll talk about this year's bills next year's draft and more. With Joseph hi Joseph thanks for being on again. You aren't going to put her talk really gets our pleasure. So before we get to the draft which is. More the reason why we called you and you've gut. Back to Sunday. Thing about LeSean McCoy and his his status in the league what are your views on him and this bills team. I think what's so impressive when you think about what Sharma Koreans specifically what he was able to do you on Sunday is. There's not a whole lot of Coke can play makers on the buffalo offense and the jets defense that can key in on which on the coin they still couldn't stop them and you look. Across what he's been able to do since joining the bill's been. Being really the catalyst behind the NFL's number one rushing offense in each of the last season off to a terrific start this year. Buy it it's it's really remarkable and then you look at the entire scope of of this player in it he's a player that. You know approaching 101000 yards first career he's been striking distance of 121002 hits 121000. You can be right there with Thurman Thomas in the top fifteen of all time so. But it was it's appropriate to kind of pay some respect their color shot going in the player that he is and the player that he's standing in really appreciate. Just how dynamic he is an offense where he is the offense and it doesn't matter he still produce. Not only did he accomplish that against. A pretty good jets' front. That was the first time really taking a brand new scheme out for Iran I mean. Different blocking scheme new new coordinator. So the guys up front obviously had to do a job you know implementing something new when he was running behind you know what gogel and a new deal basically. Yeah terrific point you know last year but the last few years that often has been very much a gap scheme where. You're reliant on big dudes up front to move guys are the wing create space and look pretty big dude you're up front creating space but they're actually doing more zone blocks and an outside zone where they have to. Rely on their mobility more to reach players and and create those teams pro Osama quaint he's making more decisions and just really speaks to their versatility and and how you the first key is. And you compete with some of the other players that welcomes carted whip and and any kind you see new coordinators how many new pieces have to come into Q what they do. The matter bullish on the court he's still producing an inept. It's really remarkable unfortunately that team's success hasn't carried. You don't bullish on the quite been able to do so did he doesn't get the national recognition he deserves but he's absolutely one of the top premiere play makers. Offensively in the entire NFL. Might end up being a little scary that they needed to get him 27 touches to beat the jets. They think they're gonna be challenged in games pike teams that I think are probably much butter and it's. Yes you know and it's interesting because if there's anything to get into it probably played Iran they had a decent run defense last year that Scott Walker and Williams up front. And and again it's just that they could keep him out that they still couldn't stop it and I guess you can you can certainly tower that I think yeah well it was against the jets. In and I think. There is something to be set for that we'll find out a whole lot war against this buffalo team against Carolina this week. Joel Marino where thus well Joseph do you see a reason to think. This bill season will be good enough so that they can and keep it together. Next year and beyond or. Are we going to be doing what we're usually doing next spring calling guys like you'd find out who the best quarterbacks are and what we should do there. Well I think that he's gonna get a define itself I'm obviously your liquor over the next few weeks and there's some positive. Things to look at this buffalo team and they're gonna be sound on defense no matter what I think Sean McDermott coming in. Playing Smart football compared to some of the variation that we saw from Rex Ryan and some. Some from awkward kind of game planning and schemes. That didn't fit his personnel and a bit more than one into that race. Sean McDermott took from a fundamental perspective I know that sounds boring there they're gonna beat players in the right position doing what they're capable of doing. That's going to be an instant improvement now offensively. It's gonna go push on the court and it's interesting. How many targets in the passing game he got the same with Charles clay and kind of limited role of a receiver than. But that's so a lot about this team and and where offensively what it's capable logged in in this Sunday against Carolina. They're gonna have any chance to move in the football it's going to be because those receivers create separation because when you look at the Panthers. Front seven it's stack it powerfully can move. And that's where the the girl's probably have an advantage outside so if Tyler Taylor is able to get good receivers involved in complement what it has. A wonderful quality good offensive line and was shot according you what you saw from Mike Tolbert then we have a chance of good defense. Have a lot riding on offense and you have a chance but I Yemen today I don't know that buffalo has the play makers needed horrible the full form really talk about. A playoff team even though from a fundamental perspective this is a much improved team even though maybe the talent not there. Joseph Marino with a us finreg sports. Also in DT scouting can follow Joseph at the Joseph Marino on Twitter okay so. What what's your status here with respect to next year's draft in the quarterbacks in it like Howell. How mom pat are you ranking them at this point is it too early lead to do that and what's so what's interesting about it right now. Well it is we've got a group we've definitely got a group of quarterbacks a look at this year that. All of whom have. Starter rates at at the next level there's a group of about five guys when I think about this crop where you know you put your guy that they that they haven't felt sparked. And and that's exciting now four of those are underclassmen so there is. That piece of this that need to come together and and capital Albie available for the for the when he eighteen until draft. But don't you look at buffalo specifically. If they can. Go through this draft and believe in Tyrod Taylor is our quarterback and be able to use those six topped 100 picks. On players that don't play quarterback to improve the talent around Eric Taylor. Now that that seemed like in an intriguing option but at the same time there's a quarterback that they believe in. They need to pull the trigger as far as Ron that I'll watch it every day this is a huge huge class on the draft I. You know I'm very much are you called upon that could understand these players and so it's a fluid process I have my preference there that early. But I'm paying very close attention so that you know I'm well as well versed that I can throughout the coming months. What is the group of both if you got five. For whom are underclassmen I mean Agassi could try to guesses at who they are but one he just tell us who the. Perhaps Lugar and Arnold. Out of other USC's Josh Rosen from UCLA. Lamar Jackson out of Louisville Josh Allen from Wyoming and then base and Rudolph from Oklahoma State those are the guys that we're looking that is as the franchise caliber quarterbacks. Maya Rudolph being the senior their. Your view. Are you someone who it's funny like the the the the college season begins. And Donald has Iraqi outing and Allen has Iraqi outing. And right away. There's you know this is a putter works of course so we immediately. The classes and what it was gonna be in the soldier it right now but all the same grows and had a really good days suitable Mark Jackson but Lamar Dixon people wanna change him into a receiver. I don't know I'd I'd like to get your thoughts on all of these guys what to start when Jackson just because there he's been sold prolific he won the Heisman last year. He's got over a thousand yards of offense himself in two games so far. What are your thoughts on him at an axle. I won't put us in so far in two weeks in terms of the growth. Then you've demonstrated from last year they a couple of things that I thought about when I looked at Mark Jackson over the summer and are ready for the season that he was. The kind of a real fame type of guy and you can tell he spoke up at about fifteen pounds of muscle that really. Showed up in his lower half and I think that's needed for him. To continue playing the way he does and then obviously picking that the next level but the second thing was. Is backers in the intermediate and deep portion of the field and showing more roads with the anticipation. So far so good. I really don't welcome improve military he's hitting them over the middle he's hitting receivers in stride. He's manipulating the pocket like you expected to an extending plays and and on a team where a lot of the pieces are different this year so I really like how he's acclimated. It felt in his new pieces he looks like more polished capture. We still have some issues with accuracy outside the numbers are sure is it hit that one yet. A challenge there do you doubt even intermediate out with the ball not where you can be but everything else is really coming together and I'm really encouraged by the growth we've seen. Of course plastered this so far from your game but he got clubs on Saturday. That's a big big test that want to keep an eye on at 8 o'clock what got us so far so good or more on Saturday. What about and UCLA. Josh erosion UCLA. They got on the type to defer to guys like huge goal on on these subjects although I did watch a little little barge accident in my own thoughts. Usually I'll just take what's the consensus and Ari so what do I wanna do. And with rose and after that first game where they were way behind his Texas a and M and came back and won there was certainly the gamut. So I mean how close too darn old Lucy or just what are your thoughts on him generally. And he's right there he's he's off to a great start nine touchdowns two Q games they've earned one yard square in 60% of his passes. It in in keeping bureaucratic having to build perspective here this is the quarterback probably right now and I think it's the bills. The bat. He's he's really polished you can tell. He has some very good understanding of leading because there's understanding where the space is going to be. Understanding where the leverage is going to be in and working the football to those areas and accuracy. They're really all levels feel now. He's got a nice frame he's got but I pedigree he just looks really Hewitt. Now he he had some magic on his side and that'll that comeback against Texas thing NM but. You know the witness he called me in the pocket that it was getting crushed over and over and I don't like them. You know the shot Watson Egyptian game against Alabama last year where this you just kept now they're hanging in there and hit the top gross and then you saw. Last week where he played Hawaii and obviously that's electrical in the texting and amp but a lot of the timing and so that we like to see came back in the game itself. Another player this week. Explain to get snapper so you be expecting good outing. But come from. From a stylistic perspective where he hit some really meshes well with. What we've learned so far from Rick Dennison and his system and you know I don't know buffaloes and like his personality. But golf from a a great perspective and how he bit. You know I think that's a really good marriage. How much if at all do you pay attention to. The noise that's around him. You open all the quarterbacks in this. Draft and Harry mentioned Jackson admitted there's been some some divided opinion just about him athletically I guess. But Rosen is I guess you know so it's something of the character or admit that can be risky for NFL teams how do you approach that. Yeah it's interesting I think is it to be prepared to repeat because every team. Handled it differently when bill that talent trumps everything in it Josh Rosen has that when you think about the bills. It kind of a comment Debra Medina had about talent athletic when he was asked about baton if you don't wanna bring distractions into the locker room it makes you think. If Buffalo's the type of team that would. Would you know you hate to say that right Josh Rosenthal because he's got to tell what you think the bottom of the bottle and you look at what we learn from this draft in the types of players have been added. A lot of four year starters a lot of guys with. It's not really good background and impressive accolades and not necessarily football related. Yeah you think there's just sit tight right that these that the builder going after him. When you have a guy that's kind of settlement things shot Rosen has whether you know it doesn't matter what I think about it matters what the bill went about it and you you wonder you wonder buffalo the type of team that. Doesn't quality bar bothered you know let somebody else that goes by too. Joseph but obviously you're knowledgeable about what McDermott has said and what the bills how other bills have talked and represented themselves here. In the in the last few months old blog and I've been talking about this for the last couple of days quite a lot so is someone who. Watches the draft so closely. When you hear that from a team do you think less of them do you think that. There'll there'll be a team that skips over guys. Quite like it this being an example potentially. And that that does or doesn't usually work. Yeah it's not that I pay a lot of attention to any import you know I'm draft analyst day in you know not to do my own or but I have the most accurate. Mock draft last year in and part of that is understand how these teens think. Understanding how the players that not a noble dramatically and from a personality from what the type of players the teams. Are willing to bring to their locker room it's not a surprise to see the players that Cincinnati bring them to her locker room and and what we've learned about the bill would cut the players. They're bringing an end and not bringing in what they said oh yeah I think it's a very important component you know not not just. For a for NFL teams understand how other teams stink but you know analyst Mike like I myself don't wanna be well grounded in understanding entire scope of them are these players that you know well. So do you go think like one or the like I know you wanna have that sort of synergy. Between the team in the players is our is it in your mind. Is a team shorting itself by a limiting itself generally or not. Yeah. It is it out. Holiest Coca. Because you know yesterday did we. Monday or Tuesday we said in here and it won't points at just what if Josh Rosen is available to the bills and crappy they don't like his attitude what are we gonna go out there right. And then may be Bulldog or I said let's just wait the six months. That worry about battery are. Out there. I want. Give your thoughts on the other guys here at least a little bit. But I'm just curious because you'll probably run out of time you don't have bigger mayfield listed in that group of five. What what's wrong what's what's hold him back size. What what does he don't like about him. Yeah yup I don't either the size and in a lot of it six that. Com employing outside of the structure of the offense could not important that you got to be able to do that that's a lot but I think. Seeing some consistency from the popular Lebanese people may feel now he. Heck of a college football player. Even unification really look football understands what. We've said that about. Janet and Allen and could keep rolling in those are two guys in but I want to lump him in like those types of players but you're all about winning from the pot and down. You know I wanna see more. Removed from baker army field in terms of the structure of the play design and understanding how to diagnose covered as quickly and where to go to football and I don't even get out of the pocket and make a highlight. You know throw it down scene that's great that's important but I need to see more in the port start thinking about him in in the same conversation that you got the. Doctor okay so darn old maybe just cliff notes on the on these other. A couple of guys Allan Donald and Mason Rudolph Donald. First yeah. Arnold Richard software is only start eleven game so keep that in mind armed 75% completion percentage so far on. Four interceptions in there they've been pretty young. Still showing good into the patient's bill making it on assault rose he's got a funky delivery. But there are some work to be done here I'm not sure he's their. The sure fire blue chip number one overall pick right now he's got that. Josh Allen. Are you got the best physical gifts from the collapse. You just need to speed up this processing and make better decisions and he's he continues to make and grows that. That make you you don't scratch your head a little bit so we wanna see consistency with the decision making big game ahead at this Saturday against organ. Really bad for him Melissa another opportunity against. What is the big time program but he had a as had a tough time in his previous two outings against I guess higher level competition. Yeah it get overlooked in Nebraska last year five interceptions. The Iowa game he could have plenty of turn over or he throws him. No there's not going to be a whole lot of more chances replaying it like at Wyoming and it could to face this parts of type of competition itself. In early season game this is but it's important to get production out. Hey one more thing to show you really likes to Shawn Watson as our remember going into the draft and here he is starting. Bye week to mean they have did you out right at one point went when they drafted understand it's a woman go and they didn't do that. Now you know knowing maybe typical Texans fashion there sort of just. Changing it click right into the season. What what do you think his chances are here. I just hate I hate it if it comes savage was on the short of the Leach. Where he's only gonna have a half of football. And you know what are they doing why don't you just build around watts of the big one and give him those wraps. In this kind of what I figured what happened I thought they walked they've really missed the mark your. You missed the mark they have locked into this season has started given those first team reps. Give him acclimated and let them shine now he's commandeered the plane on Thursday night every Qaeda and they have been injured he's got an ankle. I hate I hate the environment right now even though I think he's got a bright future ahead I wish there was. Bill O'Brien analysts believe Islam. There at. I see the chart going around Twitter all the different quarterbacks. This coach is having like. Is it for years yet or three years our starters anything just constantly in and out also Weiler with a big contract gone already you've enjoyed a good job kind of with a rep of being a quarterback whisper no. Yes yeah a lot of walking the creek going around about it quarterback was booed and I did and it and no bill O'Brien he's he's got some good things were lightly it's it's been a revolving door and look we can't overlook the team made the playoffs last year won the division without JJ watt and we've brought out. So there's there's some good years but. Yet there's not a whole lot to say what you look over his last few years quarterbacks with what the you don't what really what failed to come to fruition hopefully I'll watch that guy put. Real that topic is the margin with with their decision to play in right now if it was a shortly found stabbed to begin work. This O'Brien did the Smart thing that none of these guys the bills player to thought of that is only apply to teams in the AFC south. At Heathrow and we Indonesians with nine wins and get more credit than you deserve our guests. Okay out Joseph always a pleasure to talk to you thanks for your time. Actually appreciate the dot.